Tim Tebow Watch Watch: In which our hero searches for consistency

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  1. Danny says:

    This from Larry Burneal, the Rumble Ponies’ beat writer:

    https://twitter.com/LarryBurneal/status/1080541924795260929

    Speaking of Tim Tebow, ESPN showed a clear shot of him in the stands working on his BASEBALL SWING. While he was watching the Sugar Bowl, Tebow was getting better. Don’t bet against this guy for anything. Luis Rojas told me time and time again, Tebow’s work ethic is insane.

    • David says:

      Larry Burneal has been supporting Tebow since he arrived in Binghamton. He caught a lot of ridicule for it but he stayed true and he was right.

      • Danny says:

        Absolutely. Burneal didn’t go the way of the typical football media pundit and abandon Tebow.

        An interview that I posted a couple of weeks back with Mike Francesa stated that Tebow was batting .230 in AA. Francesa couldn’t even bother doing his homework!

        Football media is just plain dumb. I see irrational arguments made all the time not only on Tebow but other players. People trying to look smart but they’re dumb as rocks.

        I’m surprised that no one has ever brought up HOF Joe Namath’s QB career stats.

        62-63-1 career W/L record
        50.1% career completion percentage
        170 TD’s, 220 INT’s

        Is this implying if Tebow completed 2% more of his passes he would be HOF worthy? For Namath, it only mattered when he won the big games.

        As Mets beat writers go, Anthony DiComo seems pretty neutral, which is fine. I think Tim Healey might be OK. David Lennon got off the wrong foot in spring training last year with badgering Tebow about the NY pitchers. Of course all is subject to change LOL.

        About five weeks to Spring Training, getting close!

  2. Danny says:

    Mets sign a pitcher and outfielder to minor league contracts.

    https://www.syracuse.com/sports/2019/01/new-york-mets-add-two-players-who-could-be-headed-to-syracuse.html

    Mets are continuing their pattern of signing depth players for their AAA farm team.

  3. Danny says:

    David, I’m not sure if you can verify this, but I saw an interesting tweet:

    “I believe I read a stat when Tebow was QB of the Broncos showing teams that ran 50 and passed 10 attempts in a game were 30-2 since the NFL-AFL merger. If someone said they can guarantee 15 wins a season, would you hire them regardless of strategy?”

    Wow, if that’s the case, committing to the running game sure pays dividends.

    • David says:

      I can’t confirm the tweet. That would be passing only 20% of the plays which doesn’t seem realistic.
      There is a comparison of pass happy teams and run heavy teams in this article which includes the 2011 Denver Broncos.
      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/measuring-nfl-teams-pass-happiness-isnt-as-straightforward-as-it-seems/
      It looks like the running game produced better win/loss records overall. The numbers show that Denver with Tebow and Orton trailed by an average of 3.7 points while throwing 46.3% of plays which is 10.8% less than the NFL average. Tebow and company seemed to trust the running game to bring them back in the 4th quarter and didn’t throw in desperation and lose the game. So many comeback wins by Tebow involved him running the ball for a TD or a field goal. They called it Tebow Time.
      Note that the 2009 Jets with 41.1% passing carried Sanchez to the playoffs with the running game and the 2004 Steelers carried rookie Roethlisberger to the playoffs with only 38.9% passing and a 15-1 record. Roethlisberger scored only 18 times in 14 games.
      The lowest percentage of passing in this chart was 28.7% which would be 15 passes for 50 rushes.

      • Danny says:

        Tebow’s innovation in the running game (zone read) was very effective. The running game tires out a defense faster because there’s more body contact. Denver was #1 in rushing in 2011. I figured after Tebow started they averaged about 190 yards per game on the ground – and there weren’t marquee running backs on the Broncos team.

        That’s one of the reasons I was excited about the Eagles opportunity; DeMarco Murray would have racked up 2000 yards rushing. It would have been an incredible year for the Eagles.

  4. Danny says:

    The Mets make a trade and acquire CF Keon Broxton from the Brewers.

    https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1081622156923023360

    • Danny says:

      More on the Broxton trade:

      https://www.mlb.com/mets/news/mets-trade-for-outfielder-keon-broxton/c-302413320

      Basically, Broxton has spent portions of four years in the majors (2015-2018) with 2017 the most time. He’s 28 and spent most of his career in the minors. He was in the minors for most of 2018.

      Broxton has a career BA of .221, last year was .179. Broxton has hit 33 HR’s in his career, 20 of them in 2017. He’s known primarily as a defensive center fielder.

      More competition for Tebow in spring training.

    • Danny says:

      From my understanding of options, Broxton doesn’t have any options left so the Mets have to put him on the major league roster or risk losing him. This would be absolutely silly of the Mets to trade for him and then send him to AAA after spring training.

      How does this play out for Tebow?

      Cespesdes will start the year on the DL, Legaras may or may not start the year on the DL. This still gives Tim a possible path to Citi Field as a fourth outfielder.

      The Mets will have to give Broxton every available opportunity to do well as they can’t send him to AAA without DFAing him. Not likely for the reasons stated above.

      Tebow has three options after he gets placed on the 40 man roster so the Mets will be able to send him up and down for three years without consequence.

      I think the Mets will carry 4 on the active roster. Conforto, Nimmo and now Broxton are the healthy ones. Cespedes and Legaras are chronically on the DL so their status is uncertain. That leaves Tebow and 3-4 others that the Mets traded for fighting for that last spot on the active roster. If Cespedes or Legaras is active, that will likely freeze Tebow out unless there’s an injury which forces a callup.

      We’ll see what happens. Tebow is up to a challenge and he certainly will see one here.

  5. TheMascotArmy says:

    Had a Tebow argument with some Philadelphia eagles fans tonight. I think I won.

    • Danny says:

      Excellent TMA! Making the case for Tebow is easy when all the facts are known. Those who argue on narratives find them irrelevant when the truth hits them.

      • TheMascotArmy says:

        It’s funny to see them trying to argue in favor of Bradford and Sanchez, and against a 2:1 TD:TO.
        I forgot to mention that even Tebow’s what detractors admitted he played well enough that last game to make the team.

    • ck says:

      Great TMA and bet they finally acknowledged it too!

  6. Danny says:

    Looks like according to sources the Mets have settled now on who they will have for the outfield in 2019.

    https://twitter.com/MattEhalt/status/1081672398766829568

    Bryce Harper has been on a lot of fans radar since the post season began and are disappointed that they didn’t go after him. It would be a terrible deal for the Mets if they did. Sure he has talent, but with that comes a huge price:

    300 Million over 10 years. Ten years is too much to give to ANYBODY.

    Multiple player opt-outs built in the contract where Harper can declare himself a free agent at almost any time. The Mets naturally can be stuck with a bad contract if he doesn’t perform.

    Scott Boras is Harper’s agent who I’m sure BVW knows all too well.

    AJ Pollack is another one that the fans wanted. I’m afraid that he and Cespedes would be best friends on the DL as they would be spending a lot of time together there.

    Good passes by BVW in my opinion.

    Now the Mets are kind of filling in depth in the infield. Hard to believe that camp starts in about 35 days.

    Tebow baseball news has been kind of sparse these days. The big upcoming events for Tim before Spring Training is the TTF Golf Tournament and Night to Shine.

    • ck says:

      AKA “The Captain”–At least they are honoring someone who happened to be loyal and was well thought of as well. Looks like he will be collecting $$$MILLIONS too! Thanks, Danny, for updates.

      • Danny says:

        you’re welcome ck.

        I also saw a followup article that the insurance money was paid out for David Wright’s time on the DL and since Wright was under contract until 2020 they negotiated a buyout and presumably his new role on the Mets has something to do with the buyout agreement.

        Win win for everyone as far as I can see,

  7. Danny says:

    Seven years ago today (January 8, 2012), Tim Tebow’s TD pass to Demaryius Thomas on the first play of OT became one of the NFL’s most iconic moments.

    Millions of fans became Tim Tebow fans for life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idx5wsH6Fys

    • Danny says:

      Fun facts! Look at all these John 3:16 references from the game. Divine intervention?

      Tim Tebow:

      316 passing yards
      31.6 yards per completion
      31.6% Neilsen spike
      31:06 time of possession

      Only INT of game thrown which was by Ben Roethlisberger was on 3rd and 16.

    • ck says:

      He beat a team that had players who were probably more adept than the team Elrot left him with and he lead all of them to be more than they thought possible! GREAT LINK AND DEF. A TEBOW FAN FOR LIFE LIKE ALL HERE!!!

  8. Danny says:

    Check out the selection on all these Tebow jerseys:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwafDPFXQAUvTy1.jpg

    • TheMascotArmy says:

      I should wait until after spring training to buy a AAA jersey, right?

      • Danny says:

        LOL, might be a wise decision to wait – Tebow just might be in a major league uniform on Opening Day.

        Just as an FYI, #15 is not issued to anyone on the Mets roster.

        Hope it happens. I think that there are some things that have to come together to see Tebow in the bigs on Opening Day. We’ll see. A blowout spring training will help Tebow’s case immensely.

  9. Danny says:

    Short clip of Tim at Santa Clara, CA on Jan. 6 hitting BP:

    https://twitter.com/Jkarcich6/status/1082091159172788224

    • ck says:

      Looks like he getting back to form and nice to see he is keeping focused. Thanks, Danny, for great update–Spring Training next.

  10. Danny says:

    I’m sure I posted this once before but it’s still funny. It’s a GIF of Tebow saving puppies from a fire.

    https://twitter.com/Steve80B/status/1080243753108103170

  11. Danny says:

    Who hit the very first Mets home run at Citi Field? David Wright….

    https://twitter.com/Mets/status/1083398240815456256/video/1

  12. tawk2 says:

    Hi all, hope everyone had a great Christmas and happy New Year!

    I’ve been I’ll. Also very hard time of year for me, two years on Dec 30 since my son passed.

    I miss you all. You all are in my thoughts and prayers.

    Excited for Tebow, just a little worried about the really expensive engagement ring seems like a lot. Just hope Tim is still grounded. Sorry if I offend anyone with above statement. Just feel you don’t need an expensive ring to show your love.

    Thanks to all who keep this site so in formed and up to date!

    Hope all have a great weekend.

    • Danny says:

      I would tend to agree with you about the ring. I personally don’t think it’s a good idea. There’s been studies like this one that the more expensive the ring, the likelihood of divorce increases.

      https://bigthink.com/ideafeed/expensive-engagement-rings-linked-to-higher-divorce-rates

      Of course not one scenario fits all, and I’m certain that Tim feels that he met the love of his life. They seem happy together, and she seems to have passed the strict vetting process of the Tebow family.

      It’s great to see you back. Hoping you get better soon. It has to be a tough time for you and your family. I’m sure I can speak for our community here that our thoughts and prayers are with you as well.

      Spring training is around the corner, one month from today to be exact. Hoping Tim does well this spring.

    • ck says:

      Hi tawk2! So glad you posted a comment and agree about everything you stated. Hope you have a blessed year in 2019 and thanks for not forgetting about us–will continue to keep you in prayer…God bless!;D

  13. Danny says:

    A Mets fan weighs in on a tweet from the Mets regarding Keon Broxton:

    https://twitter.com/jeff_wheat/status/1083879609953865728

    • David says:

      The Mets are shaping up well. Now we won’t need speedy outfielders, we can load up the outfield with power hitters. 🙂

      • Danny says:

        The Mets signed Jed Lowrie as an infielder recently. The Mets’ infield has gotten crowded now. I’m not sure how that’s going to play out.

        I don’t think the Mets are done trading yet, although a lot of people think the outfield is set.

        Lots of fans still yelling for the Mets to sign Bryce Harper. Ten years is too long of a contract, and in essence the way Harper’s agent wants to structure the contract, Harper can opt out of the contract at almost any point and declare himself a free agent once again. Too much risk for the Mets.

        Harper had 34 HR’s, 100 RBI’s but a .249 BA for 2018. He’s good, but $300 Million good?

        The Mets haven’t discussed anything about Tebow in several weeks. Keeping it all under wraps as far as I can tell. It was January 19th last year when the Mets extended the spring training invite to Tebow, so hopefully he’ll be extended a spring training invite soon.

        • David says:

          The promotion to Triple A showed us that he has recovered and they like what they see. Tebow just has to light it up in AAA and good things will happen. Thanks for breaking down the situation. The injury problems still seem to offer opportunities for other outfielders.

  14. ck says:

    Thanks Danny & David for all the updates; much appreciated. Hope to see Tebow soon doing what he is good at…WINNING!

  15. Danny says:

    Fun Facts!

    The ONLY QB that the Denver Broncos drafted in its entire franchise history that won a playoff game was TIM TEBOW.

    How many QB’s did John Elway draft that ever won a playoff game?

    The answer: NONE!

    Tebow was drafted by the Broncos before Elway became GM.

  16. David says:

    This narrows it down.

    ProFootballReference
    ‏Verified account @pfref
    Jan 8

    Mitchell Trubisky is the 6th QB in the last 15 years to have 300+ yards, a TD, and 0 INTs in a playoff game in his first or second season.
    The other five: Dak Prescott, Andrew Luck, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, and Tim Tebow http://pfref.com/tiny/varwM

    I checked and Tebow and Prescott threw over 300 yards in their first playoff game.
    Tebow threw 316 yards in 21 attempts
    Prescott threw 302 yards in 38 attempts, 1 Int which disqualifies him from the prerequisites above.
    Trubisky threw 303 yards in 43 attempts.
    If you give the other QBs twice as many pass attempts as Tebow, they can almost keep up.

    • TheMascotArmy says:

      And he never started another game in the NFL. Pathetic.
      Still, I think hindsight will show that as merely a stepping stone to baseball. Had he never played football, he’d be the one looking at 300 million dollar contracts. Then again, there’s only a handful of people to ever play both sports.

    • David says:

      Luck, Kaepernick and Wilson also had interceptions in their 300+ games. Guess who that leaves on this list. Tim Tebow and Trubisky, a guy that was criticized for being too much like Tebow.
      Trubisky lost his first playoff game to Phil. 16-15

      • Danny says:

        It’s beyond me why the NFL is so scared of innovative strategies. Every time a QB comes into the league that tries the zone read, the moron fans always say “They’ll figure him out and that will be the end of it”. They never “figured out Tebow”.

    • David says:

      The Amazing History of Sports
      ‏ @TAHOSpodcast
      Jan 5
      And with that, Dak becomes the first QB to earn his first playoff win against a Super Bowl winning QB since Tim Tebow in the 2011 AFC Wild Card Game.

      Dallas won against Seattle and Russell Wilson.
      Tebow beat the Steelers and Roethlisberger.

    • ck says:

      Talk about a disservice and what they did to Tebow was beyond that–agree w/TMA!
      Great details, David, and def. WINS any argument concerning what he is capable of accomplishing…going to see the same in baseball like Danny stated too! Too bad for the NFL and they’re reaping it!!

  17. Danny says:

    MetsMerized Online gave away a Tim Tebow Rookie Set recently.

    https://twitter.com/MetsMerized/status/1083557224268607488

    The giveaway is over, but thought it was pretty cool that they did this.

  18. ck says:

    Tebow is promoting Core-Life and it starts today. Looks like a “Fad Diet”?! Whole 30 can really make a difference though imo.; especially, when it involves sugar addiction-LOL

  19. Danny says:

    A while back I posted gameday footage of Opening Day at Yankee Stadium in 1931. A new upload has more batting practice footage of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.

    The first half is enhanced as the original was filmed in slow motion. The second half is the original footage. Video is about 8 minutes long.

    Enjoy this little trip through history!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXftJC8FOfo

  20. David says:

    https://www.mlb.com/mets/news/jed-lowrie-signs-with-mets/c-302784050
    “Van Wagenen’s confidence stems in part from Lowrie, his former client, who rejuvenated his career with perhaps his best two seasons in 2017-18. Combined, Lowrie hit .272 with 37 homers and an .804 OPS for the A’s, playing mostly second base.

    With the Mets, the switch-hitter figures to start many days at third base (Todd Frazier can shift to first), some at shortstop and some at second, occupying the No. 2 hole in New York’s lineup. In Van Wagenen’s mind, Lowrie’s signing eliminates any last remaining “what if’s” on the Mets’ roster, pushing Jeff McNeil to the outfield to bolster depth there.

    Some believe the Mets would have been better served acquiring Harper, Machado or even A.J. Pollock, but Van Wagenen indicated earlier this offseason that his budget wouldn’t allow him to do that while also addressing all other areas of need. “

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