Tim Tebow Watch Watch: In which our hero searches for consistency

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  1. TheMascotArmy says:

    I just bought 5 tickets for the Charlotte game. First row behind the visiting dugout. I had to call up to specifically choose seats. Best available wasn’t what I wanted.

  2. David says:

    While looking at the PSL roster, I noticed that Rizzie and Berrios came to Columbia from PSL. They were hitting .153 and .167 after about 20 games and 60 at bats. A center fielder, Zabala, is hitting .197 and is still there. That gives you an idea of what they will tolerate before moving you down.
    There are only about 5 players that have played more than 60 games, which means the rest are sharing playing time or haven’t been with the team for the whole first half of the season. It indicates a lot of movement up or down in the Mets organization from PSL.
    Paez is just getting started and is 4 for 16 with a .250 average. He had a .290 average with Columbia. You can see the team stats here.
    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&cid=507&stn=true&sid=t507

  3. David says:

    Tim Tebow’s St. Lucie stats page. I guess everybody has a picture of Tim in a Mets jersey except his team. They used the Fireflies picture.
    http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=t507&player_id=628297#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALL

  4. David says:

    Attendance has been very low in the Florida State League. That’s about to change.
    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_att&lid=123&sid=l123
    Columbia had 207K in 39 openings. Tim’s last game there was the 4th highest attendance on record at 8304.

  5. David says:

    Tim’s press conference before the last game in Columbia.
    https://twitter.com/ColaFireflies/status/879410572466552834

  6. tawk2 says:

    Wish GM of Mets Sandy sorry cannot remember last name, when asked why Tebow was promoted would have been a little more confident with her answers to media. I want Tebow to succeed, not just be a draw at box office. I really feel though that Tim will do well and his average will climb. Just hate seeing haters/naysayers out in force bashing Tebow again. I know he is not as young as other players, but he has accomplished so much in 63 games, there are younger players that it takes a year or two to get where Tim is now. Like the NFL the haters/naysayers will not give Tim a fair chance, expect him to be perfect out the gate! Sorry to vent, just read some comments on an article and also read the latest SI story.

    • David says:

      Tebow had a .261 average at one point in the first half and Gene Cone trailed him for most of the first half. The PSL Mets have an outfielder that’s hitting .197 who should be trading places with Cone. They are both center fielders. Sandy Alderson praised Tebow’s exit velocity and metrics. To me, that means that they noticed what we noticed, that he hits hard, causes errors and beats the throw. So, I wouldn’t worry too much about the criticism, but Tim has to perform and avoid slumps and strike outs. Tim was asked in the press conference about his stats and he told the reporters that he had just gone 0 for 3 but knocked in 2 runs. He said the ball doesn’t always fall right but you just have to hit it hard and let the stats take care of themselves. (paraphrased) That’s kind of like what Alderson said before the press started ridiculing it, because they didn’t understand it.
      The link is above.

      • tawk2 says:

        Thanks David I agree. I know that Tebow has improved and batting average is not the only factor that makes a good player or puts points on the scoreboard. What bothered me is critics saying the only reason Tim was promoted was because of the ticket sales. Yes Tebow increases sales but he also brings so much to the game. I have been a fan of Tebow since his high school days, Nease played my school and one of my sons actually played in a game against Nease on the other team. So I have been a fan for many years now. I know Tebow will many more great things in his life!

      • Danny says:

        Tawk2, you probably have more of a personal connection with Tim than most of us out here…and you got to meet him in Hagerstown too. It’s easy to be a fan of Tebow, he just does what he does the right way.

        • tawk2 says:

          I never met Tim personally when he played my son who was playing for my high school alma mater, but I did get to observe him in games over the years. Even in high school Tebow had the it factor. When I met h im in Hagerstown it felt like I already knew him, hard to explain. Also, when meeting Tim and talking to him, this great sense of happiness and peace overcame me, he brought out the best in me. I know others here have met Tebow, did you feel the same way? I was one of the lucky ones to have gotten not only Tebow’s autograph, but also talked with him. I hope all get to live this amazing experience.

          Now I know what Tebow brings to a team, not only talent and great leadership but he also brings out the best in his team mates.

          • ck says:

            Well said, tawk2! Agree, he is someone on a higher plane and you know you have been around someone destined for greatness!;D

    • brandi says:

      Sandy Alderson was fine, IMO. His explanation was exactly on point. The Mets saw the things they were looking to see in terms of how hard Tim’s hitting the Ball, consistency of contact, etc.

      If you look closely, you’ll find most of those commenting are NFL Writers who feel compelled to justify Tim’s treatment by the NFL and them. Tebow Fans should NEVER apologize for his popularity, feel it somehow diminishes or makes his accomplishments questionable. That is exactly what happened with the NFL. Few things infuriated me more than seeing Tebow Fans talking about his deserving a “Backup” QB spot. He was and is a Franchise NFL Quarterback. It makes absolutely no difference if the NFL or its sycophant media admits that.

      But it does matter if Tim’s Fans allow his Detractors to create the discussion. That absolutely cannot ever be allowed to happen or it will wreck his Baseball Career like it wrecked his NFL Career.

      NEVER EVER EVER allow an Enemy to choose the Battlefield.

    • Danny says:

      I got a kick of everyone wrapping their minds around “exit velocity”. They had absolutely no clue. Basically that means how fast is the ball coming off the bat.

      Alderson also talked about “chase rate” which is a stat they keep track of in MLB but not listed officially in MiLB. Chase rate is how many pitches a hitter swings outside the strike zone. Tim has always been very good about not going after pitches outside the strike zone.

      My guess is that they track those stats more closely on the players they feel that are showing potential.

      • tawk2 says:

        Great points Danny, it’s almost like the NFL with the critics, using only his batting average to show how well he is playing, not the bigger picture of all the things that go into putting points on the scoreboard. Just like the NFL so stuck on their completion stats and not winning the game.

    • Danny says:

      Brandi: I’ve been thinking about the whole backup QB business lately and in my mind that’s such a bogus argument.

      The common argument made was that teams would have to change their whole offense if Tim had to go in because of whatever reason. All a team had to do is to build the team around Tim and the BACKUP could also be well versed in the zone read. I saw a couple in the CFL that were very good zone read QB’s, almost as good as Tebow, and I know that there are others. So, yes a NFL team could have been built around a zone read offense. No having one offense for one QB, another offense for another QB. Hardly anyone talks about that option.

      Everyone has to do it the same old way all the time. It didn’t need to be that way. The NFL blew it. MLB gets to reap the benefits.

      • tawk2 says:

        Danny I agree with you about the zone read factor with Tebow in the NFL. Any tean could have used Tebow and had backup QB that could also play zone read. The NFL kept saying no team wanted to build around Tebow’s strengths, but I seen so many teams stating with other QB’s that they were building offense around strenghths of their QB. Just another excuse to make teams not want Tebow, bogus crap if you want my opinion. Tebow brought more excitement and edge of your seat energy to the NFL that made watching the game fun. My opinion pocket passing QB’s are boring and predictable. NFL is stuck in their old ways and won’t change, which in the end is what will bring the NFL down. The NFL treated Tim badly, I pray the MLB will not listen to the media, my opinion most are opinunated jerks, jealous of anyone who dares to follow their dreams.

      • David says:

        I’ve always thought that Kaepernick would make a great backup for Tim Tebow.

        • tawk2 says:

          Yes I thought the same thing, but Kapernick had a offense built around his strengths. Now Kapernick is showing his true self and killing his career. My hubby is niner’s fan and cannot stand Kapernick now or after he started acting out on the niner’s.

      • brandi says:

        My sense on Tim the entire time was he had to be an Owner’s decision. NFL GMs get nothing for making the Fans happy and lose nothing for making them mad. And though I may feel a huge part of a GM’s job is to be a face to the Fans and Media like Baseball does…look at how often we hear from Sandy Alderson, especially for the big stuff…NFL GMs have decided Fans and Media are beneath them.

  7. David says:

    Tebow drives in a run with a sacrifice fly to trail by 1 run 3-2. Later, by grounding out to 1st base, he drove in the tying run and moved the winning run to 3rd base. A wild pitch allowed that runner to score and win 4-3.
    Tebow was 0 for 3. All he does is win.
    http://www.milb.com/r/video?content_id=1537120583&topic_id=&sid=t3705&tcid=vpp_copy_1537120583&v=3

  8. tawk2 says:

    So excited Tebow plays first game on St. Lucie Mets tonight!

  9. Danny says:

    Tim batting 8th playing LF tonight. First pitch 6:30 Eastern

    Michael Paez batting 7th playing 2nd base.

    Go St. Lucie Mets!

  10. Danny says:

    Tim’s debut gets postponed due to weather, doubleheader scheduled for tomorrow.

    • tawk2 says:

      Thanks Danny just trying to load game up to listen. Florida is known for afternoon thunderstorms, atleast the 30 years I lived there it was.

  11. TheMascotArmy says:

    I knew something happened when I saw there were not many more comments.

  12. ck says:

    Too bad it got shut out…:( Double header tomorrow! TEBOWMANIA POSTPONED!
    Agree w/all and thanks for all the info. posted too!

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